initial charging/balancing of LiFePO4 cells in a pack

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This question arrises more and more often and i didn't find anything on my first search (maybe i missed something).

There is some discussion about how to initially balance new (or old stock) LiFePO-cells the 'right' way. I found the following suggestions:

1. parallel top balancing
Connecting all cells in paralell (first make sure the voltage difference of the cells is low enough - say less than 50 mV) and charge them up to 3.45V (or 3.5 or even 3.65V) until the load currents falls below a certain threshold (say 1/20 C). Some say 3.45V is high enough (= 100% SoC) others tend to go up to 3.65 V, which may be already too high when current is low so that the cells starts suffering. There are also some shortcomings here when doing parallel balancing - so that it is not really recommended.

2. seriel top balancing
connect all cells in series, add a suitable BMS and charge the whole pack up to 100% SoC (i.e. 3.45V/cell or whatever you set as your top charge level in the BMS). At the end of charge manually test each single cells voltage with a good and precise DMM (at least 3 decimals, better 4). Make sure all cells reach the same voltage level by trickle charging each cell separately if necessary).

3. bottom balancing (in series or parallel)
discharge all cells (in parallel or series) to their low-voltage cutoff (say 2.5V or 2.7 V will do the same job). Start with a high load (high discharge current of up to 1C) and repeat (after a little recovery rest) the procedure with a lower load (say 1/20C) to finally discharge to 2.5 or 2.7V/cell. Check each cells voltage with a good DMM and trim each cell down to the same level.

Discussion:
If found the opinion that procedure 2. (seriel top balancing) should be the preferred method.
Method 1. in most cases will take much longer as it needs very high current or will take many hours/days to fully charge all cells. It also needs reassembling the cells for final use in series and you have the effort of compressing the cells twice.
Method 3. is said to be less accurate as the lower cell voltages dont represent the SoC as exactly as the upper level will do. I am not sure about that point as the voltage/SoC-curve in both areas has a kind of knee - so both areas could be used fo leveling/balancing cells to a certain SoC-niveau.
Method 2. has the opportunity to put the pack in its final state for use and you just have to compress it once. Its also much faster than the parallel balancing, as it needs less current and can be done with most better laboritory power supplies capable of supplying the voltage you need for the pack.

A separate point maybe the correct way of compressing the cells for their initial use/charge and the 'right' pressure. Some say you need to apply around 300 kg of pressure to the pack +/- 10%. Too much is bad but too less is also bad. Some don't compress their pack at all with no visible problems, some get bad bulging cells.

Eager to hear your opinion and experience here :)
 
For LifePo4, with it's veeeeerrrry flat voltage curve - top balancing seems the most practical.

One top balance suggestion I often read about.... use the same individual cell charger to charge each cell to 100% and then you're close enough to build the battery, attach the BMs, and immediately use the battery.

If you have time..... another advantage of acquiring an individual cell charging (and discharge) setup, is to do a cell capacity test to ensure all the cells are equivalent. Also verify IR if you have the equipment. This will take the guesswork out of building a well behaved battery.
- Charge, discharge to see capacity, and charge - cell is at 100%, ready for assembly
- Wait a bit to check for self-discharge before assembly
- Verify IR
 
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yes i go with offgrid, regarding IR and total capacity per cell.

Regarding balancing, it does not really matter top bottom or even in the middle.
If your bms or active balancer can handle it it really does not matter.
All five lifepo4 banks are balanced within 0.010v or less.
If i see a bank with bigger differance in v than 0.5, than i will switch on the balancer.
BTW i think i even forgot to turn them off:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.

1. parallel top balancing
Connecting all cells in paralell (first make sure the voltage difference of the cells is low enough - say less than 50 mV) and charge them up to 3.45V (or 3.5 or even 3.65V) until the load currents falls below a certain threshold (say 1/20 C). Some say 3.45V is high enough (= 100% SoC) others tend to go up to 3.65 V, which may be already too high when current is low so that the cells starts suffering. There are also some shortcomings here when doing parallel balancing - so that it is not really recommended.

On the yt university a guy "offgridgarage" did a experiment on this, with parallel a empty one and a full one, i did not expect that outcome...
For max v it is more important to know the manufactures specs. EVE can do 3.65, but after 2000 cycles you will lose 20% capacity.
My max is set on 3.5v, any higher in a very small gain in capacity.
Again top balance is not relevant in this matter.
You could parallel them up in verios state of charge, let them sit for a week, or buy a balancer, makes life so much easier.
Believe me, that fiddling around with cells, replacing rewiring ect.
Order, unpack, install-----> enjoy BUT if you have really old or 5th hand cells....

2. seriel top balancing
connect all cells in series, add a suitable BMS and charge the whole pack up to 100% SoC (i.e. 3.45V/cell or whatever you set as your top charge level in the BMS). At the end of charge manually test each single cells voltage with a good and precise DMM (at least 3 decimals, better 4). Make sure all cells reach the same voltage level by trickle charging each cell separately if necessary).
You need a bms anyway, can i suggest DALY bms? i am very happy with them, they act like junkyard dogs but listen to you.
Most bmses have a display per cell in v at 0.001.

3. bottom balancing (in series or parallel)
discharge all cells (in parallel or series) to their low-voltage cutoff (say 2.5V or 2.7 V will do the same job). Start with a high load (high discharge current of up to 1C) and repeat (after a little recovery rest) the procedure with a lower load (say 1/20C) to finally discharge to 2.5 or 2.7V/cell. Check each cells voltage with a good DMM and trim each cell down to the same level.
Now this has a different reason.
If lifepo4 cells are in storage for 3 to 6 months, they tend to get lazy, just use them to wake them up.
But i dont know how long they were in storage before i got them.

A separate point maybe the correct way of compressing the cells for their initial use/charge and the 'right' pressure. Some say you need to apply around 300 kg of pressure to the pack +/- 10%. Too much is bad but too less is also bad. Some don't compress their pack at all with no visible problems, some get bad bulging cells.
A good answer i can not give you on this one sorry, but i do know if you are using them above 0.5c rate they tend to get bigger.


What i did was after unboxing put them in their rack with a spanner to force the bulge a bit back.
After a day or two i could take them out with less effort than i put them in.
I cut some thick paper to size and put that in between several cells, so i had to put a bit of force to get the last cell back in.
They are happy.


All stated above are my own personal experiences, so i was not writing down what i saw on youtube.
I hope this will save you a lot of time and effort, but i want also to encourage you to experiment a bit, for your own learning curve.

My two cents
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