Sean said:
Wolf, did you ever manageto confirm how accurate the capacity tests you record are ?
Ahh yes the age old question how accurate are our testers anyway.
The answer to this question has many facets.
I will try to condense it as best as I can.
Most sub $70.00 Charger/Testers have a canned program to charge and discharge batteries with some selections available to the users.
These "user" settings are usually allowing a change in mA charging rate and that's it. It assumes that "most" 18650 batteries will test withan acceptable result within those parameters. We cannot change the cutoff mA of the charge cycle which I believe is set at ~80mA. We also cannot change the discharge voltage cutoff most of them have that burned in at ~2.8V.
So what does that mean?
These settings will work for a lot of batteries for reasonable accuracy to at least within ~5% mostly to the higher side.
Cells of different chemistries require different charging and discharging parameters. Hence the spec sheets that battery manufacturers provide that inform us as to how they testedthe cells and how they should be tested to achieve the results that they claim the cells have.
So for a cell (like theUR18650ZTA)that has a max of 4.35V and a cutoff of 3V with a "generic" tester can we get an accurate reading.
NO we can't, but we can get "close".
Another example is theICR18650-30B 4.35V max to 2.75 cut off will the "generic" tester ever show the true capacity of 2950mAh?
Probably not. But again close.
So I got the SKYRC MC3000 as you probably recall. With this unit I can custom tailor the charging and discharging profile according to the manufactures spec sheet down to every detail. I run a spot check on all my testers on every lot I test.
I use 3 testers as you know. 4 Foxnovo, 3 Opus, and 3 Liitokala. So for every 44 batteries that I run through I take 4random batteriesfrom
one of the tester makes,as in 4 from OPUSone time then the next time from Liitokala then from the Foxnovo and run them through the SKYRC to spot check. Usually maximum of~5%deviation to the higher side from the other charger/testers.
The Foxnovo in my findings is the closest the OPUS is slightly higherand the Liitokala is the highestwith capacity results compared to the SKYRC.
So to answer your question I believe my test results after cross checking and spot checking are within a 5% margin of error to the high side.
I am at this point with 2366 cells that meet my criteria for my powerwall build that means 434 more cells to go. With my IR pretest, that has been phonemalysuccessful in weeding out non performing cells, itshould take me another 10 charge and discharge cycles to get to the 2800 mark.
I will then build my first 200p pack add all the cells mAh results up and run a test on the pack with my iCharger. That should give us an indication on how close we are at the pack level.
I hope that answers your question.
Wolf
Oops I forgot to mention the Zanflair way off no good.