Florida/USA - Minimum Electric Bill targets home solar generation


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OffGridInTheCity

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“Beginning in January, Duke Energy Florida instituted a minimum monthly bill of $30 that applies to most non-demand rates for commercial and industrial, and also applies to all residential rates,” said Duke Energy spokesperson Ana Gibbs. “Only a small portion of solar customers are impacted by a minimum bill. The larger portion is made up of a variety of different customers including seasonal customers, customers who have multiple properties, etc.”

One thought - home Solar production is getting large enough that power companies are looking to cash in. The little person never get's a break for long!
 

Korishan

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Is that $30 on top of the other fees? For example, in northern Fl we have Clay Electric here and they charge about $25/month for connection to the grid.
 

Solar Guppy

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No other fees except 7% state tax, your bill is 30 dollars minimum. It makes sense, the infrastructure of the grid isn't free to maintain and no battery I know of that can power the house costs a dollar a day if the sun isn't out.

Gridtie was never going to work beyond early adopters, all that makes transmission work is expensive and needs to be maintained.

I generated 2.6 MWh ( with my solar ) more than I used in 2021, which once you are over your usage is settled once a year at wholesale rates.

It's still a great deal, I built my own system for half of what turn-key is and it is fully permitted ( legal )
 

cak

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I live off grid so have the battery and oversizing of system to meet winter needs cost but grid tie folks around me have $30+ monthly connection fees since we are very rural. I work with utility folks a lot and keep bring up the idea about more off grid or microgrid options as a solution that might actually be cheaper than building and maintaining all the power lines and maybe the backup system is a battery on a tuck that can go around and top people off in the winter and unload excess capacity in the summer. Our grid system is so complex and so stuck in the way it has been built around single large sources of energy so I generally hit a brick wall in my work but keep on trying :)
 

Korishan

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Yeah, that is the major problem. They need to decentralize power production.
All those folks in South Florida who had no power for weeks on end, but yet they had plenty of solar panels available. The couldn't use them because the equipment detected to power on the grid, so wouldn't activate the inverters. Even flipping the mains breaker would do nothing.
The big issue here was that the power companies were the ones who authorized the installations, with their requirements.
A whole neighborhood could have been powered by a few local solar farms just by having a decentralized network, disengage the grid to that area of the neighborhood, and allow the power to be produced. But nope!

We'll get there eventually, tho. I'm hoping to have some off-grid generation this summer.
 
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