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I did the same error with my 4x AGM Deep Cycle 12V 9A batteries. I left them connected to the solar controller for maybe a month or two without the panels. Batteries were completely depleted. And I couldn't get them to charge anymore.
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Then I found a trick on the net: connect the depleted battery in parallel to a good one (use a good large cable, + with +, - with -, I used a small 2A 12V battery taken out of an alarm system). Let them balance for a few minutes and then connect the charger leaving the two batteries together! I used the repair function and after 3 days the battery seemes good. Yes!
I tried this and it worked on the 1st couple of parallel groups but then I hit a parallel group that would not hold the bump. I used a 44p pack to bump the 7p and could raise the voltage to 1.0v+ but it would discharge to 0v within 20sec as soon as I disconnected the 44p. Normally, it will bump and drop back a little but not go all the way to 0v and I can start slowly pushing in a charge. But this group of 7p seem totally fried!
 
Did an eu3000is -> Chargeverter propane test yesterday. Enhanced this gen with a propane kit a couple of years ago but never actually tried producing power till yesterday. Note - it still runs on gasoline as well.
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One of the lessons from the shed fire/debacle is that this Honda is quieter in the open than the Champion in the shed. So now I'm setup to just roll it (and the eu7000is) 10feet from under the house out to a stone wall bounded area in the pic above and can run it with no bother to neighbors. It's also 'not bad' inside our own house - perfectly acceptable.

After a bit of tuning the propane regulator, got the Honda to produce 2500-2600w of continuous power -> 120v@43a Chargeverter.
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Ran for 99minutes using 0.633 gallons of propane per bathroom scale weighing the 30lb propane tank before and after.
0.633gal -> 4.14kwh over 99minutes gives numbers like 6.540kwh/gallon of AC power. This is likely a bit high / easily accounted for by inaccurate bathroom scales but... it actually produced reasonable power regardless of exact amount!
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eu3000is providing 2500w-2600w is 91% of max 2800w continuous specs for gasoline. And the 99min run shows it can do this multiple hours. It's nice to confirm something actually works :)
 
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Couple of years ago i had a similar Honda.
But it would run on homemade biodiesel and commercial diesel.
Steady output 9kwh.

I am a bit surprised you did not make yourself a biodiesel reactor.
Waste veg oil is for free and can produce very high-octane fuel environment friendly.

My car did 1.5 times the kilometers on my own biodiesel than on commercial.

Sorry for my trip on my memory lane.

Those Honda's will run forever, very reliable, never sell
 
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I tried this and it worked on the 1st couple of parallel groups but then I hit a parallel group that would not hold the bump. I used a 44p pack to bump the 7p and could raise the voltage to 1.0v+ but it would discharge to 0v within 20sec as soon as I disconnected the 44p. Normally, it will bump and drop back a little but not go all the way to 0v and I can start slowly pushing in a charge. But this group of 7p seem totally fried!
I had a similar problem where I had cinched the 10mm2 bare cable down too hard and it was shorting on the negative top of 3 cells. I am now slowly 'fixing' all of my packs with plastic spacers so that this cannot happen again. :) See pictures.
 

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Couple of years ago i had a similar Honda.
But it would run on homemade biodiesel and commercial diesel.
Steady output 9kwh.

I am a bit surprised you did not make yourself a biodiesel reactor.
Waste veg oil is for free and can produce very high-octane fuel environment friendly.

My car did 1.5 times the kilometers on my own biodiesel than on commercial.
Wouldn't know how to acquire/handle/use biodiesel but sounds interesting, thanks for brining it up - I'll do some tubing on it! :)

I've primarily been fascinated by wood -> electricity since I live in "endless wood country" (Pacific Northwest) which seems to break down to 1) Steam Engine, 2) Sterling Engine, 3) Gasifier or 4) Heat. First 3 require 'engine -> electricity' which in turn requires a pretty large engine or machine to produce enough for say 3000w of continuous power.

For #1 - there's a youtube guy 'Ross Bendixen' that makes custom, real life steam engines you can buy but we're talking 500w? of power and they are pretty hefty. Plus he wouldn't even speculate how many hours it would run before breaking down. Plus, I'm looking for 3000w of power - 5 or 6 times the size of these - which brings up safety concerns. :cry:

For #4 Wood Heat - I'm going to see if I can install a wood furnace (or at least a wood stove) but warry of permits needed. Will post eventually.

The shed/fire earlier this year set me back as far as being 'gung ho' with DIY fuel or gas or steam at home as there are dangers. I'm currently working on a fuel storage area (propane, k1-keresone, gasoline, butane) in the yard with non-flammable containers and away from anything that can burn - will do some pics when finished.
 
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Steam engines no matter how small to the size of the big boy they need a lot of maintenance.
Steam to electric, i would think twice to do it, the horsepower you need for 3kw generator continues is quite a lot.
Also there is a reason that in the old days of steam trains they changed from wood to coal. higher calories thus more power.
Steam is very safe as long as you keep it under 3 bar and dont go near heated(dry) steam 120C or super heated steam 140C.
Just keep 100-110C.
Now what is the steam doing? it powers up a simple piston in a cilinder.
To get steam heat up with whatever you want in a kettle under pressure and force that into a cilinder.
ect ect(yes i am a scale one live steamer modeler also).

I think the best way to go is a combustion engine to power up a generator.
The first diesels run on peanut oil ask Rudolf diesel.
Btw every diesel runs on vegie oil except the commen rail.

Wood is best for simple 1 on 1 heat in a wood stove/burner, cooking will be very slowly.
Talking from my experience, i had a very old(antique) wood furnace, i really loved that thing.
In our second home in Poland, we have a similar cooking thing, but also accept coal, 3 times quicker regarding cooking.

For wood burning (in the Netherlands) its allowed and you can buy even wood stoves as small as 2kw.
If you can weld (i thought, you could) why not make a double walled wood stove and run water against it to distribute thru your whole house?
A extra radiator is connected in no time with a extra pump.

I'm currently working on a fuel storage area (propane, k1-keresone, gasoline, butane) in the yard with non-flammable containers and away from anything that can burn
What no ammo or tnt storage?!?!?!
I think a concrete wall of 2.5 inch thick will do everything you want.
Or a wooden shed with plaster, drywall, promat or rockwool (hard press not the soft one) to the sides.

Good luck with rebuilding all, and seeing your process, is very good to see.
 
Battery #10 is finally nearing completion.

Purchased these never cycled NCR18650A medical pack cells on July 11, 2022 from BatteryHookup. Used 1/2 for the trailer expansion a while back and this 1/2 will make battery #10 (14s88p) for the powerwall. 7 packs ready, pack 8 soldered/drawing down to 3.8v for deployment and just needs it's longmon. 6 more packs to solder up.
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This will bring the powerwall to 135kwh and I'm starting to think this will be the last one. BUT, look at this Battery Clearing House offer - https://www.batteryclearinghouse.co...packs-4-cells-per-pack?variant=48452634542402 - 240cells at 2600mah for only $110 with 95/95 guarantee.
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I could do battery #11 for only ~$700 in cells = ~$52/kwh in cells. However, battery #10 will bring me to ~34% DoD for the 'extra long life' goal and I'm running out of room. What a journey - time will tell.
 
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Awesome! Always love your updates and project details. I'm still (very slowly) chipping away at my 18650 project, which will be somewhere between 3000-4000 cells whenever completed -- mine are the reclaimed modem cells (mostly LG) from Battery Clearinghouse. Meanwhile, I took advantage of another recent Battery Clearinghouse deal as well and am dipping my toes in the LiFePO4 pool for the first time, on large scale with the big 8s BYD packs they are selling there. I also thought they would be a good way for me to deploy my (also-under-slow-construction) DIYBMS system. I lost momentum on that project a little while back since I didn't have a battery pack ready and waiting for it to monitor, so maybe this will reignite my soldering hobby to get it up and operational for the BYDs.

Thanks for sharing!
Cheers, John
 
Awesome! Always love your updates and project details. I'm still (very slowly) chipping away at my 18650 project, which will be somewhere between 3000-4000 cells whenever completed -- mine are the reclaimed modem cells (mostly LG) from Battery Clearinghouse.
Chipping away indeed. It's taken me over 2 years to process this last batch of 2600 cells :)

Meanwhile, I took advantage of another recent Battery Clearinghouse deal as well and am dipping my toes in the LiFePO4 pool for the first time, on large scale with the big 8s BYD packs they are selling there.
Only 16cells per battery - what a dream!:) I'm closing in on 20,000 cells (~170kwh total) and have no idea of minutes per cell but..... 20,000 cells * 5min/cell = 208.3 x 8hrs days of work! However, it's too late for me / I don't want to mix the 18650 voltage range with LifePo4 batteries in the powerwall.

I also thought they would be a good way for me to deploy my (also-under-slow-construction) DIYBMS system. I lost momentum on that project a little while back since I didn't have a battery pack ready and waiting for it to monitor, so maybe this will reignite my soldering hobby to get it up and operational for the BYDs.
Batrium has been expensive and I'd *love* to do Stuart Pittaway... but it would strain my skills and Batrium has expanded well over the years and run pretty well.

Thanks for sharing!
Cheers, John
You too!
 
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Couple of random updates.....
iCharger X8 #2 died! This is the second one in 6 years. It's been showing distress on the 1s sense leads for the last 15packs (or so) and then the boot screen went into flicker/scramble mode - could not be turned on or recovered. This is actually similar to how the 1st one died.

Just got in #3 - looks like $150 every 3 years or so to keep an iCharger around :(

WatchmonCore w/longmons is different than Watchmon4 or Watchmon5. Since I have 2 x active Watchmons (home powerwall and trailer) I decided to get a backup a few months ago. The current incarnation is a WatchmonCore. Was trying it out with my latest battery 'in progress' and found that you cannot hookup the longmon network directly. You *must* use an IsoMon (formerly IsoMon3) - https://www.batrium.com/products/isomon - to get it to read a mon network such as longmons.
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It arrived today and all is working (good!) but it's a nuisance complexity put on mons because of K9 support that didn't exist for Watchmon4 or Watchmon5 where you could hook the network up directly to the Watchmon.
 
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This pretty much sums up the entire Batrium experience at this point.

Cheers, John
Agreed, they are annoying! but.... they still make longmons that all work together after 7 yrs (and counting) which has allowed seemless expansion year after year. This has been a real + for my situation. And the Watchmons + expansion are still working... hopefully they'll live up to the long life hype as well. In comparison, it seems the iChargers are a piece of junk.
 
Battery #10 is online..... Powerwall at 3.7v and new battery at 3.8v - low level sparks when paralleling it in :)
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Brings me up to 140 longmons and 2600ah @ 48v. At 52v that's 135kwh of capacity.
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This is where Batrium shines.... added 14 longmons to the network (14s packs), adjusted the count from 126 -> 140, did a "Sync", and away it goes - pretty easy to expand the powerwall / BMS monitoring.
 
The final piece of the rebuild from the shed / propane fire.

Previously I had propane stored next to the shed. When the shed caught fire it caused the propane to heat/vent and go into massive blowtorch mode causing huge damage.
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This time, I'm going with metal containers away from anything flammable! Also, instead of 100lb (20gal) bottles, doing 40lb (8gal) bottles as they fit nicely upright in the SUV for transport - a requirement to get them filled. No more fuel right up against the shed or house!
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This is the finishing touch to 100% recovery from the fire :)
 
Where's the genny stored?
 
The final piece of the rebuild from the shed / propane fire.

Previously I had propane stored next to the shed. When the shed caught fire it caused the propane to heat/vent and go into massive blowtorch mode causing huge damage.
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This time, I'm going with metal containers away from anything flammable! Also, instead of 100lb (20gal) bottles, doing 40lb (8gal) bottles as they fit nicely upright in the SUV for transport - a requirement to get them filled. No more fuel right up against the shed or house!
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This is the finishing touch to 100% recovery from the fire :)
Safe and nice looking as well. Congratulations with the finishing touch to 100% recovery. 😊
 
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