power cost in your area

[Stefaan De Ridder]

Over here inBelgium it is about 0.23/Kwh all in.... (taxes for a 1,8Kw grid tie solar system included)

and no garantee for the winter. but they instate a very good plan of shutting down power area by area, if there is not enough power available

 

[w0067814]

for me... UK 0.11 per kWh (about $0.14) but we also have a service charge of 0.11 per day too i used to think this was high too but lots of people paying more than me in UK.
I get paid 0.14 per kWh I generate with my solar PV

Wow! Who's that with? Very low compared to UK average.

Tim

 

[hermitdave]

for me... UK 0.11 per kWh (about $0.14) but we also have a service charge of 0.11 per day too i used to think this was high too but lots of people paying more than me in UK.
I get paid 0.14 per kWh I generate with my solar PV

Wow! Who's that with? Very low compared to UK average.

Tim

My current rates are
Day Rate 13.742p per kWh
Night Rate 7.618p per kWh
Standing Charge 24.319p per day


Just signed up to my new contract.. The prices have shot up this time..
Day Rate 17.837p per kWh
Night Rate 11.849p per kWh
Standing Charge 26.176p per day

For a fixed price contract this is still cheapest

 

[w0067814]

You certainly had a good deal. My deal had also just come to an end so I've been looking around. Bulb look to have good prices though they are notfixed.

I'm considering moving to half hourly metering once the power wall is fully operational as then I can write a charge algorithm to take advantage of day ahead pricing and solar input. Half hourly pricing is highly variable ranging from slightly negative (ie paid to consume) to several times the average electricity price during times of high demand. Looking at data from the last year I believe that I should average 7p/kWh by charging from the lowest 4 to 6 half hour periods per day.

Tim.

 

[ChrisD5710]

RE: Power Prices:

Here is my latest bill.

Preliminary payment for the period: 01.11.2018 - 31.01.2019
Installation with PV panels. Max power under 6 KW
Expected consumption is based on last Years consumption:
All Fees are for 3 Months:

Basic Fee: 30,00 Kr.
Local utility Fee: 107,08 Kr.
Extra fee for PV customers: 16,26 Kr.

Public trading Fee: 886 kWh a 0,0015 Kr. 1,34 Kr.
Actual Power 886 kWh a 0,4373 Kr. 387,45 Kr.
Transport fee, local utility 2.108 kWh a 0,1913 Kr. 403,25 Kr.
Transport fee and fee to Energinet.dk 886 kWh a 0,0800 Kr. 70,88 Kr.
Taxes:
PSO tarif 886 kWh a 0,0940 Kr. 83,29 Kr.
Electricity Tax 886 kWh a 0,9174 Kr. 812,80 Kr.
VAT 25 % 478,09 Kr.

Total due 2.390,44 Kr. for 886 KWh.

Price per KWh 2390,44/886 = 2.698 DKK = .36 or $.42/Kwh

Can anyone beat that?

ChrisD

 

[chuckp]

UK. Economy 10 tariff. 10 hours off peak per day spread over three periods.
0.07 per kWh off peak
0.21 per kWh peak
0.18 daily standing charge.

Daily house grid supplied usage is between 8 kWh and 26 kWh subject to available sun, laundry days etc, over the past 6 month.

Not got my feed in tariff rate yet, still need to apply for it, but I should get the higher rate as I managed to get a B on the EPC rating before I installed 8 kWhp of solar panels.
Panels have generated 1.73 MWh over the last 6 months.

Battery packs of approx 9 kWh storage built so far (not yet in operation). Hoping to achieve between 25 kWh and 30 kWh long term.

 

[WuggyBuggy]

In Denmark

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for: 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD

And I got a low 1kWh cost.

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RE: Power Prices:

Here is my latest bill.

Preliminary payment for the period: 01.11.2018 - 31.01.2019
Installation with PV panels. Max power under 6 KW
Expected consumption is based on last Years consumption:
All Fees are for 3 Months:

Basic Fee: 30,00 Kr.
Local utility Fee: 107,08 Kr.
Extra fee for PV customers: 16,26 Kr.

Public trading Fee: 886 kWh a 0,0015 Kr. 1,34 Kr.
Actual Power 886 kWh a 0,4373 Kr. 387,45 Kr.
Transport fee, local utility 2.108 kWh a 0,1913 Kr. 403,25 Kr.
Transport fee and fee to Energinet.dk 886 kWh a 0,0800 Kr. 70,88 Kr.
Taxes:
PSO tarif 886 kWh a 0,0940 Kr. 83,29 Kr.
Electricity Tax 886 kWh a 0,9174 Kr. 812,80 Kr.
VAT 25 % 478,09 Kr.

Total due 2.390,44 Kr. for 886 KWh.

Price per KWh 2390,44/886 = 2.698 DKK = .36 or $.42/Kwh

Can anyone beat that?

ChrisD

Wow that's expensive Chris. Which company do you have?

 

[ChrisD5710]

In Denmark

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for: 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD

And I got a low 1kWh cost.

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RE: Power Prices:

Here is my latest bill.

Preliminary payment for the period: 01.11.2018 - 31.01.2019
Installation with PV panels. Max power under 6 KW
Expected consumption is based on last Years consumption:
All Fees are for 3 Months:

Basic Fee: 30,00 Kr.
Local utility Fee: 107,08 Kr.
Extra fee for PV customers: 16,26 Kr.

Public trading Fee: 886 kWh a 0,0015 Kr. 1,34 Kr.
Actual Power 886 kWh a 0,4373 Kr. 387,45 Kr.
Transport fee, local utility 2.108 kWh a 0,1913 Kr. 403,25 Kr.
Transport fee and fee to Energinet.dk 886 kWh a 0,0800 Kr. 70,88 Kr.
Taxes:
PSO tarif 886 kWh a 0,0940 Kr. 83,29 Kr.
Electricity Tax 886 kWh a 0,9174 Kr. 812,80 Kr.
VAT 25 % 478,09 Kr.

Total due 2.390,44 Kr. for 886 KWh.

Price per KWh 2390,44/886 = 2.698 DKK = .36 or $.42/Kwh

Can anyone beat that?

ChrisD

Wow that's expensive Chris. Which company do you have?

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ENIIG, as have most consumers living in Jutland.

Please PM me with the amount on Your last bill, and how many KWh You consume per Year.

ChrisD

 

[GeneralDJ]

Here's something to consider. I you pay for 20kWh/day @ $.13/kWh, that comes to $78/month. But that's every month. If you buy the powerwall components, you buy them only once. So the upfront cost may be a bit higher, even as much as $.30/kWh, but it will have paid for itself in the longrun after a few years. Maybe even a few months depending on your costs, usages, amount of sun on a daily basis.
This is how I'm looking at it from. My overall cost will be better than my current cost.

exactly!!
i would like to add the following:

a 100 dollars today isn't worth a 100 dollars in 10 years. correct for inflation and interest rates.

however, hardware and investments depcreciate in quality and need replacing. factor this into your cost-benefit analysis.

 

[Korishan]

Agreed, equipment will need to be repaired/replaced. But in overall view, it's still cheaper However, if you have 1 inverter, and it fails, then you're in the dark unless you have grid/generator backup. So there is that to consider as well. Why buy 1 when you can buy 2 at twice the cost

But yes, GeneralDJ, hardware will need to be kept up over time. Those costs will probably stay the same ( even with inflation), but the cost of electricity will continue to go up.

 

[schmo]

here in germany its 0,2778 per kWh

 

[ChrisD5710]

In Denmark

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for: 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD

And I got a low 1kWh cost.

And You forgot the monthly/quarterly fees. They add to Your bill too.
If You have solar panels installed You will get billed an additional $.035 per KWh fed in.
ChrisD

And now, the latest NewsYou can look forward to: "flexafregning".

Imagine this: You go to Your local supermarket to buy some food, however, there is no longer prices on the shelves, You just fill Your basket and pay at the exit, whatever amount they decide to charge You.
Why?, because the seller tells You that prices changeduring the Day, day of week and per delivery, so they have decided not to display the price.

Dissatisfied, no problem, just ditch Your purchase and go home, no pay, no food. Next store is all the same.

Cant You find a normal store?, Nope this is by legislation, and we all have to abide, latest at 1. January 2020.

My meter is read 4 times per Hour, so now I can see when I make coffee in the morning and when I cook Dinner, as well as I can see when Iturn of the TV and lights in the evening, and when I wash my laundry.
:huh:

 

[Generic]

Wow! Crazy prices around the world! Here in the Chicago area, we have some nuclear plants and I guess that helps make electric relatively cheap. I pay $0.057 per kW, and another $0.060 per kW for transmission, taxes, efficiency programs, meter lease, etc.

 

[Geek]

In Denmark

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for: 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD

And I got a low 1kWh cost.

And You forgot the monthly/quarterly fees. They add to Your bill too.
If You have solar panels installed You will get billed an additional $.035 per KWh fed in.
ChrisD

And now, the latest NewsYou can look forward to: "flexafregning".

Imagine this: You go to Your local supermarket to buy some food, however, there is no longer prices on the shelves, You just fill Your basket and pay at the exit, whatever amount they decide to charge You.
Why?, because the seller tells You that prices changeduring the Day, day of week and per delivery, so they have decided not to display the price.

Dissatisfied, no problem, just ditch Your purchase and go home, no pay, no food. Next store is all the same.

Cant You find a normal store?, Nope this is by legislation, and we all have to abide, latest at 1. January 2020.

My meter is read 4 times per Hour, so now I can see when I make coffee in the morning and when I cook Dinner, as well as I can see when Iturn of the TV and lights in the evening, and when I wash my laundry.
:huh:

So you are saying that the power company can charge whatever they like. Is there a 'maximum' price they can charge?

 

[100kwh-hunter]

0,23 cent a kwh in the Netherlands, no tax included.
Above a certain use, you can choose between a day or night time meter, but its only cheaper when you use really a lot.

Not even 600w on 230v every hour 24/7 all year round(only my pound that is), but they fool you.

Several years ago i only asked for information about solar panels, because you could get some money back.
I had a old style meter.....within TWO weeks they wanted to change the meter, because apparently those old ones turn back if you have power left over.

When you follow the rules over here, you get 9 cent a kw back if you sell, if you must buy they will calculate the difference.
When does the sun shine, and where are you? probably of to work.

I heard also something that our roberment does not want any battery's anymore by 2020?
For dutchie's: apparently in our law, 2 or more acid battery's are under the wceg law....wet civiel explosief gebruik.
There is also a law in the make for use of li ion's
It's waiting for paying tax for you own solar power, just like in Spain.
And its getting worse, but oke, i can live with that

Enough sad, sorry

Best

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Ps if you buy a ev you must have a second connection to the grid with a different meter, its not wanted that you charge from your normal grid?
Separate network?

 

[Redpacket]

Here in Australia costs can vary a lot depending on the plan you negotiate with the retail supplier.
It also varies widely depending on the distribution area you live in eg basically ina major city or in a more rural area and which state or territory you're in.
It also varies if you have a simple old style spinning disk (flat rate all day, maybe cheaper off peak rates for hot water at night) or a smart meter (Time of Use billing).

In Sydney I pay AUD$0.2876 (~USD$0.2042) per kWhr for the first approx 11kWhrs then slightly cheaper after that.
There's a fixed daily supply charge of AUD$0.824 (~USD$0.585) per day.
We pay 10% GST (tax) on each of the above too.

 

[chuckp]

Just had a price increase over here.

UK. Economy 10 tariff. 10 hours off peak per day spread over three periods.
0.09 per kWh off peak
0.24 per kWh peak
0.24 daily standing charge.

Feed in Tariff:

Generation Tariff: 0.0379/kWh
Export Tariff: 0.0524/kWh deemed as 50% of generated units.

 

[Solardad]

New Hampshire, .19 per KWH for a residential household.
This includes all charges, delivery, nuclear recovery charge, etc..
There is no peak or off peak pricing.

We have an open market but the rates in general are all within a penny or two, no real advantage since the delivery charge is fixed and accounts for roughly 50% of your bill.

 

[OffGridInTheCity]

I'm in Oregon USA. The price ranges from .11c/kwh to 13c/kwh depending on tier (how much you use per month).
My system is off-grid:
- 6.885 PV array of premium panels
- 40kwh 18650 battery bank (average $2.33/cell including cells + all materials to build packs). Running 50% DOD.
- 12,000 watt inverter - e.g. 240v@50amp capable.
- Midnite Classic, Batrium, APCs, automatic transfer switches for smooth operation/consumption.
- Generates 10,000 watts per year which saves aprox $1,200.00 per year in power bills.

I've tracked all purchases, permits, tax credits, and power credits to date. At one year in I'm 22.17yrs to recover money spent.

Cons:
- Battery bank will need to be replaced at least once
- Electronics (Midnite Solar, AIMS inverter, Batrium, APCs..) will not last 22yrs

Pros:
- Have livable amount of energy in emergency.
- Electricity costs will only go up! (Oregon is about to pass a cap and trade)

Bottom Line - its not strictly cost effective for off-grid/battery bank from a pure $$ standpoint where I live. But it IS fun and solid sense of accomplishment/worthwhile-ness.

 

[Anannaki]

+1 for "Bottom line"