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Anyone own a Tesla?
#11
(11-12-2019, 08:31 PM)jdeadman Wrote: Have you looked at the Rivian?  EV truck  Or the Altis  https://www.atlismotorvehicles.com/xt-truck


I have / I am aware of it, along with Fords investment participation in the company.  The problem is the truck is not available for purchase.  Truthfully I would have even more reservations buying this over the Tesla even if it was available because autopilot is one of the primary factors.  Tesla has such a massive head start on certain things.

Still, I like the direction this is moving.  I love owning a pickup, and have for many years.  Electric truck makes so much sense to me... all that low end torque available, towing, carrying load.  I get 13 mpg in my Chevy Silverado... would be nice to have my truck be the most efficient vehical I own.
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#12
(11-11-2019, 11:49 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote: How was your experience with any service or maintenance items during that timeframe?

The LTE modem broke down, took about three weeks to diagnose, get spare part and fix. That was the only issue.
A yearly maintenance schedule is included in my leasing contract, I just created an appointment in the Tesla App and everything went smoothly so far. Like the retrofits I got: paid battery upgrade from 60 to 75 together with free performance upgrade (less one second from 0 to 100km/h), paid CCS quick charging adapter. I‘m a happy customer.

Software Updates are mostly improvements and sometimes regressions as in any continuous delivery :-]

Still own a truck (Landrover Defender), but I almost never use it. Teslas have a huge trunk and the frunk, and the ride is so much more fun. I guess you‘ll make the same experience once you have it. Today I rather ask somebody else to trailer the boat and take the S...

(11-12-2019, 04:36 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote: For work the longest distance I have to travel about 240 miles / 386 km round trip.  I would need to be able to do that in a single charge.

That will be hard, even with the long range, especially in winter. Sure there is no charger? Not a single electrical outlet at the places you’re visiting? Look harder!
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#13
(11-12-2019, 04:36 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 05:27 AM)ajw22 Wrote: a very fresh owner of a 2015 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

I wish I could get away with that. Just 45km?  That is 27 miles... I couldn't even use that.
For work the longest distance I have to travel about 240 miles / 386 km round trip.  I would need to be able to do that in a single charge.


About once a month, I also have to travel up to 400km one way to take care of stuff at our branch office.  The Outlander PHEV has an electric+gasoline range of ca 600km, so I'm going to see how well that works out in terms of combined mpg.  If it's not good, I still have my 3.6L/100km (65mpg) Honda hybrid to fall back on.
Modular PowerShelf using 3D printed packs.  40kWh and growing.
https://secondlifestorage.com/showthread.php?tid=6458
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#14
(11-12-2019, 09:45 PM)stevelectric Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 11:49 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote: How was your experience with any service or maintenance items during that timeframe?

The LTE modem broke down, took about three weeks to diagnose, get spare part and fix. That was the only issue.
A yearly maintenance schedule is included in my leasing contract, I just created an appointment in the Tesla App and everything went smoothly so far. Like the retrofits I got: paid battery upgrade from 60 to 75 together with free performance upgrade (less one second from 0 to 100km/h), paid CCS quick charging adapter. I‘m a happy customer.

Software Updates are mostly improvements and sometimes regressions as in any continuous delivery :-]

Still own a truck (Landrover Defender), but I almost never use it. Teslas have a huge trunk and the frunk, and the ride is so much more fun. I guess you‘ll make the same experience once you have it. Today I rather ask somebody else to trailer the boat and take the S...

(11-12-2019, 04:36 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote: For work the longest distance I have to travel about 240 miles / 386 km round trip.  I would need to be able to do that in a single charge.

That will be hard, even with the long range, especially in winter. Sure there is no charger? Not a single electrical outlet at the places you’re visiting? Look harder!

Our definition of winter also vary greatly from yours... it's currently 22C / 71F in San Diego.

I just wanted enough range to make it from LA to SD and back in a single charge... there are plenty of chargers... including a supercharger within a mile of the hotel I stay at.  It is after all CA, home of the Tesla.

Truthfully my interest in Tesla has more to do with personal convenience than anything else.  Charging at home would be more than sufficient for my daily routine, saving me from even having to visit a gas station, and traffic around here is pretty bad at times, having autopilot sounds like it would help easy to burden and increase saftey in stop and go traffic.  If it wasn't for autopilot I really don't think I would even be looking at a Tesla/EV right now.
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#15
Right you are, charging at home and Autopilot are really convenient. SD-LA and back should be doable on one charge and if circumstances are unfavorable a 10 minute supercharger stop will help you out. As second life battery expert you surely know that lithiums should not routinely be charged to 4.2V, especially in warm environments. That’s why I personally rather make a short stop than start the trip with a 100% charge.
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#16
Certainly… well aware of most the caveats of lithium cells. I am actually really impressed with Tesla that they allow for partial charge in their battery management to help service life. If I don’t have to travel for work, my daily commute to the office is only 6 miles… I will for the most part, not be fully charging unless I actually NEED the range.

I was fighting with myself between the standard range and long range… I could probably make it work with less but it would be nice to have a faster car, dual motor, and the range in case I need it.

Now only if laptop manufactures figured out early, most laptops that sit plugged in all day are topped off at 100%. We might actually have even better salvaged cells.
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#17
(11-13-2019, 04:50 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote: Now only if laptop manufactures figured out early, most laptops that sit plugged in all day are topped off at 100%.  We might actually have even better salvaged cells.

Oh, they figured it out alright.  Then they figured out how long a typical customer needs to notice the degradation.  The warranty period and replacement battery cost is then set to maximize profits!

Nissan Leaf can be limited to 80% charge, too.  The Outlander PHEV does not have such an option :-(.

But one has to also take into account what the manufacturer has defined as 100%.  I think Tesla allows (though not recommends) up to 4.2V (now changed by firmware update?).  Whereas the Outlander is always limited to 4.1V or so.
Modular PowerShelf using 3D printed packs.  40kWh and growing.
https://secondlifestorage.com/showthread.php?tid=6458
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#18
In the process of getting serious about the switch, I test drove the dual motor extended range Model 3 this past weekend.

It was certainly a different driving experience, pretty pleasurable overall. Overall the car feels and handles pretty well. The electric motor was fun to drive, having all that torque is pretty awesome, but it still wasn’t THAT fast in my opinion. I intentionally did not drive the Performance model because I know I would have liked it, but also don’t have any intention of spending that much on a car.

The software on this thing is really something else… really does feel like the future. Autopilot was definitely the star of the show but very unnerving for a first timer. I know other manufactures are making EVs, but I haven’t seen anything else that can complete.

I think at this stage I have a pretty good idea of what to expect, but don’t want to rush into it either. I spent the better part of my weekend at the hardware store getting supplied to run a 220v 50 amp outlet in my garage from the breaker panel to accommodate an EV charger.

Even if you don’t have any intention of buying one, you should test drive it if you want a glimpse into the future of driving. Being of the generation that actually knows what dial up internet sounds like, it brings me back to a time when I first got to experience that technology. I can see how/why people drink the Elon Musk cool-aid.
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#19
Would love to own one someday.
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#20
(11-18-2019, 05:26 PM)Crimp Daddy Wrote: In the process of getting serious about the switch, I test drove the dual motor extended range Model 3 this past weekend.

Oh that’s dangerous, I bought it right after the test drive Big Grin

P.S. If you happen to buy, you could use my referral code for 1000 free miles of supercharging.
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