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power cost in your area
#21
(05-21-2018, 06:38 PM)wim Wrote: Over here in Belgium it is about 0.23€/Kwh all in.... (taxes for a 1,8Kw grid tie solar system included)

and no garantee for the winter. but they instate a very good plan of shutting down power area by area, if there is not enough power available :-)
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#22
(09-27-2018, 03:12 PM)lordxenu Wrote: for me... UK £0.11 per kWh (about $0.14) but we also have a service charge of £0.11 per day too i used to think this was high too but lots of people paying more than me in UK.
I get paid £0.14 per kWh I generate with my solar PV

Wow! Who's that with? Very low compared to UK average. 

Tim
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#23
(09-27-2018, 06:45 PM)w0067814 Wrote:
(09-27-2018, 03:12 PM)lordxenu Wrote: for me... UK £0.11 per kWh (about $0.14) but we also have a service charge of £0.11 per day too i used to think this was high too but lots of people paying more than me in UK.
I get paid £0.14 per kWh I generate with my solar PV

Wow! Who's that with? Very low compared to UK average. 

Tim

My current rates are
Day Rate 13.742p per kWh 
Night Rate 7.618p per kWh 
Standing Charge 24.319p per day


Just signed up to my new contract.. The prices have shot up this time.. 
Day Rate 17.837p per kWh
Night Rate 11.849p per kWh 
Standing Charge 26.176p per day

For a fixed price contract this is still cheapest
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#24
You certainly had a good deal. My deal had also just come to an end so I've been looking around. Bulb look to have good prices though they are not fixed. 

I'm considering moving to half hourly metering once the power wall is fully operational as then I can write a charge algorithm to take advantage of day ahead pricing and solar input. Half hourly pricing is highly variable ranging from slightly negative (ie paid to consume) to several times the average electricity price during times of high demand. Looking at data from the last year I believe that I should average 7p/kWh by charging from the lowest 4 to 6 half hour periods per day.

Tim.


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#25
RE: Power Prices:

Here is my latest bill.

Preliminary payment for the period: 01.11.2018 - 31.01.2019
Installation with PV panels. Max power under 6 KW
Expected consumption is based on last Years consumption:
All Fees are for 3 Months:

Basic Fee: 30,00 Kr.
Local utility Fee: 107,08 Kr.
Extra fee for PV customers: 16,26 Kr.

Public trading Fee: 886 kWh a 0,0015 Kr. 1,34 Kr.
Actual Power 886 kWh a 0,4373 Kr. 387,45 Kr.
Transport fee, local utility 2.108 kWh a 0,1913 Kr. 403,25 Kr.
Transport fee and fee to Energinet.dk 886 kWh a 0,0800 Kr. 70,88 Kr.
Taxes:
PSO tarif 886 kWh a 0,0940 Kr. 83,29 Kr.
Electricity Tax 886 kWh a 0,9174 Kr. 812,80 Kr.
VAT 25 % 478,09 Kr.

Total due 2.390,44 Kr. for 886 KWh.

Price per KWh 2390,44/886 = 2.698 DKK = .36 € or $.42/Kwh

Can anyone beat that?

ChrisD
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#26
UK. Economy 10 tariff. 10 hours off peak per day spread over three periods.
£0.07 per kWh off peak
£0.21 per kWh peak
£0.18 daily standing charge.

Daily house grid supplied usage is between 8 kWh and 26 kWh subject to available sun, laundry days etc, over the past 6 month.

Not got my feed in tariff rate yet, still need to apply for it, but I should get the higher rate as I managed to get a B on the EPC rating before I installed 8 kWhp of solar panels.
Panels have generated 1.73 MWh over the last 6 months.

Battery packs of approx 9 kWh storage built so far (not yet in operation). Hoping to achieve between 25 kWh and 30 kWh long term.
UK Southwest.

7 kWp Solar Panels
14 X APS YC500i Micro Inverters.
Still sourcing and processing cells for powerwall.
Planning on a Sofar Mass Energy ME3000SP AC coupled grid tied inverter.
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#27
In Denmark 

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for : 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD 

And I got a low 1kWh cost. Big Grin

(12-28-2018, 09:26 AM)ChrisD5710 Wrote: RE: Power Prices:

Here is my latest bill.

Preliminary payment for the period: 01.11.2018 - 31.01.2019
Installation with PV panels. Max power under 6 KW
Expected consumption is based on last Years consumption:
All Fees are for 3 Months:

Basic Fee: 30,00 Kr.
Local utility Fee: 107,08 Kr.
Extra fee for PV customers: 16,26 Kr.

Public trading Fee: 886 kWh a 0,0015 Kr. 1,34 Kr.
Actual Power 886 kWh a 0,4373 Kr. 387,45 Kr.
Transport fee, local utility 2.108 kWh a 0,1913 Kr. 403,25 Kr.
Transport fee and fee to Energinet.dk 886 kWh a 0,0800 Kr. 70,88 Kr.
Taxes:
PSO tarif 886 kWh a 0,0940 Kr. 83,29 Kr.
Electricity Tax 886 kWh a 0,9174 Kr. 812,80 Kr.
VAT 25 % 478,09 Kr.

Total due 2.390,44 Kr. for 886 KWh.

Price per KWh 2390,44/886 = 2.698 DKK = .36 € or $.42/Kwh

Can anyone beat that?

ChrisD

Wow that's expensive Chris. Which company do you have?
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#28
(01-16-2019, 05:20 PM)WuggyBuggy Wrote: In Denmark 

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for : 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD 

And I got a low 1kWh cost. Big Grin

(12-28-2018, 09:26 AM)ChrisD5710 Wrote: RE: Power Prices:

Here is my latest bill.

Preliminary payment for the period: 01.11.2018 - 31.01.2019
Installation with PV panels. Max power under 6 KW
Expected consumption is based on last Years consumption:
All Fees are for 3 Months:

Basic Fee: 30,00 Kr.
Local utility Fee: 107,08 Kr.
Extra fee for PV customers: 16,26 Kr.

Public trading Fee: 886 kWh a 0,0015 Kr. 1,34 Kr.
Actual Power 886 kWh a 0,4373 Kr. 387,45 Kr.
Transport fee, local utility 2.108 kWh a 0,1913 Kr. 403,25 Kr.
Transport fee and fee to Energinet.dk 886 kWh a 0,0800 Kr. 70,88 Kr.
Taxes:
PSO tarif 886 kWh a 0,0940 Kr. 83,29 Kr.
Electricity Tax 886 kWh a 0,9174 Kr. 812,80 Kr.
VAT 25 % 478,09 Kr.

Total due 2.390,44 Kr. for 886 KWh.

Price per KWh 2390,44/886 = 2.698 DKK = .36 € or $.42/Kwh

Can anyone beat that?

ChrisD

Wow that's expensive Chris. Which company do you have?

ENIIG, as have most consumers living in Jutland.

Please PM me with the amount on Your last bill, and how many KWh You consume per Year.

ChrisD
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#29
(05-21-2018, 11:06 PM)Korishan Wrote: Here's something to consider. I you pay for 20kWh/day @ $.13/kWh, that comes to $78/month. But that's every month. If you buy the powerwall components, you buy them only once. So the upfront cost may be a bit higher, even as much as $.30/kWh, but it will have paid for itself in the longrun after a few years. Maybe even a few months depending on your costs, usages, amount of sun on a daily basis.
This is how I'm looking at it from. My overall cost will be better than my current cost.

exactly!!
i would like to add the following:
 
a 100 dollars today isn't worth a 100 dollars in 10 years. correct for inflation and interest rates.

however, hardware and investments depcreciate in quality and need replacing. factor this into your cost-benefit analysis.
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#30
Agreed, equipment will need to be repaired/replaced. But in overall view, it's still cheaper Wink However, if you have 1 inverter, and it fails, then you're in the dark unless you have grid/generator backup. So there is that to consider as well. Why buy 1 when you can buy 2 at twice the cost Tongue

But yes, GeneralDJ, hardware will need to be kept up over time. Those costs will probably stay the same ( even with inflation), but the cost of electricity will continue to go up.
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