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power cost in your area
#31
here in germany its 0,2778 € per kWh
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#32
(01-16-2019, 05:20 PM)WuggyBuggy Wrote: In Denmark 

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for : 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD 

And I got a low 1kWh cost. Big Grin
And You forgot the monthly/quarterly fees. They add to Your bill too.
If You have solar panels installed You will get billed an additional $.035 per KWh fed in.
ChrisD  Wink

And now, the latest News You can look forward to: "flexafregning".  Sad 

Imagine this: You go to Your local supermarket to buy some food, however, there is no longer prices on the shelves, You just fill Your basket and pay at the exit, whatever amount they decide to charge You. 
Why?, because the seller tells You that prices change during the Day, day of week and per delivery, so they have decided not to display the price.
 
Dissatisfied, no problem, just ditch Your purchase and go home, no pay, no food. Next store is all the same.

Can´t You find a normal store?, Nope this is by legislation, and we all have to abide, latest at 1. January 2020.

My meter is read 4 times per Hour, so now I can see when I make coffee in the morning and when I cook Dinner, as well as I can see when I turn of the TV and lights in the evening, and when I wash my laundry.
Angry Angry Huh
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#33
Wow! Crazy prices around the world! Here in the Chicago area, we have some nuclear plants and I guess that helps make electric relatively cheap. I pay $0.057 per kW, and another $0.060 per kW for transmission, taxes, efficiency programs, meter lease, etc.
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#34
(04-02-2019, 11:06 AM)ChrisD5710 Wrote:
(01-16-2019, 05:20 PM)WuggyBuggy Wrote: In Denmark 

Without tax: 1kWh cost 0,07$ USD
With tax and everything else they charge you for : 1kWh cost 0,3$ USD 

And I got a low 1kWh cost. Big Grin
And You forgot the monthly/quarterly fees. They add to Your bill too.
If You have solar panels installed You will get billed an additional $.035 per KWh fed in.
ChrisD  Wink

And now, the latest News You can look forward to: "flexafregning".  Sad 

Imagine this: You go to Your local supermarket to buy some food, however, there is no longer prices on the shelves, You just fill Your basket and pay at the exit, whatever amount they decide to charge You. 
Why?, because the seller tells You that prices change during the Day, day of week and per delivery, so they have decided not to display the price.
 
Dissatisfied, no problem, just ditch Your purchase and go home, no pay, no food. Next store is all the same.

Can´t You find a normal store?, Nope this is by legislation, and we all have to abide, latest at 1. January 2020.

My meter is read 4 times per Hour, so now I can see when I make coffee in the morning and when I cook Dinner, as well as I can see when I turn of the TV and lights in the evening, and when I wash my laundry.
Angry Angry Huh

So you are saying that the power company can charge whatever they like. Is there a 'maximum' price they can charge?
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#35
0,23 cent a kwh in the Netherlands, no tax included.
Above a certain use, you can choose between a day or night time meter, but its only cheaper when you use really a lot.

Not even 600w on 230v every hour 24/7 all year round(only my pound that is), but they fool you.

Several years ago i only asked for information about solar panels, because you could get some money back.
I had a old style meter.....within TWO weeks they wanted to change the meter, because apparently those old ones turn back if you have power left over.

When you follow the rules over here, you get 9 cent a kw back if you sell, if you must buy they will calculate the difference.
When does the sun shine, and where are you? probably of to work.

I heard also something that our roberment does not want any battery's anymore by 2020?
For dutchie's: apparently in our law, 2 or more acid battery's are under the wceg law....wet civiel explosief gebruik.
There is also a law in the make for use of li ion's
It's waiting for paying tax for you own solar power, just like in Spain.
And its getting worse, but oke, i can live with that

Enough sad, sorry

Best

Ps if you buy a ev you must have a second connection to the grid with a different meter, its not wanted that you charge from your normal grid?
Separate network?
Still learning English. Learning Li ion and solar technology.
+/- 3500 Li ion cells harvested, none checked and counting.

Time is our enemy, must work to, the sun is our friend, must relax to.
With best regards
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#36
Here in Australia costs can vary a lot depending on the plan you negotiate with the retail supplier.
It also varies widely depending on the distribution area you live in eg basically ina major city or in a more rural area and which state or territory you're in.
It also varies if you have a simple old style spinning disk (flat rate all day, maybe cheaper off peak rates for hot water at night) or a smart meter (Time of Use billing).

In Sydney I pay AUD$0.2876 (~USD$0.2042) per kWhr for the first approx 11kWhrs then slightly cheaper after that.
There's a fixed daily supply charge of AUD$0.824 (~USD$0.585) per day.
We pay 10% GST (tax) on each of the above too.
Running off solar, DIY & electronics fan :-)
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#37
Just had a price increase over here.

UK. Economy 10 tariff. 10 hours off peak per day spread over three periods.
£0.09 per kWh off peak
£0.24 per kWh peak
£0.24 daily standing charge.

Feed in Tariff:

Generation Tariff: £0.0379/kWh
Export Tariff: £0.0524/kWh deemed as 50% of generated units.
UK Southwest.

7 kWp Solar Panels
14 X APS YC500i Micro Inverters.
Still sourcing and processing cells for powerwall.
Planning on a Sofar Mass Energy ME3000SP AC coupled grid tied inverter.
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#38
New Hampshire, .19 per KWH for a residential household.
This includes all charges, delivery, nuclear recovery charge, etc..
There is no peak or off peak pricing.

We have an open market but the rates in general are all within a penny or two, no real advantage since the delivery charge is fixed and accounts for roughly 50% of your bill.
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#39
I'm in Oregon USA. The price ranges from .11c/kwh to 13c/kwh depending on tier (how much you use per month).
My system is off-grid:
- 6.885 PV array of premium panels
- 40kwh 18650 battery bank (average $2.33/cell including cells + all materials to build packs). Running 50% DOD.
- 12,000 watt inverter - e.g. 240v@50amp capable.
- Midnite Classic, Batrium, APCs, automatic transfer switches for smooth operation/consumption.
- Generates 10,000 watts per year which saves aprox $1,200.00 per year in power bills.

I've tracked all purchases, permits, tax credits, and power credits to date. At one year in I'm 22.17yrs to recover money spent.

Cons:
- Battery bank will need to be replaced at least once
- Electronics (Midnite Solar, AIMS inverter, Batrium, APCs..) will not last 22yrs

Pros:
- Have livable amount of energy in emergency.
- Electricity costs will only go up! (Oregon is about to pass a cap and trade)

Bottom Line - its not strictly cost effective for off-grid/battery bank from a pure $$ standpoint where I live. But it IS fun and solid sense of accomplishment/worthwhile-ness.
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#40
+1 for "Bottom line"
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